conda-forge core meeting 2022-12-14

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Attendees

Name	Initials	GitHub ID	Affiliation
Dave Clements	DPC	tnabtaf	Anaconda
Marcel Bargull	MB	mbargull	Bioconda/cf
Cheng H. Lee	CHL	chenghlee	Anaconda/cf
Matthew Becker	MRB	beckermr	cf
Marius van Niekerk	MvN	mariusvniekerk	cf
John Kirkham	JK	jakirkham	NVIDIA/cf
Jaime Rodríguez-Guerra	JRG	jaimergp	Quansight/cf

10 people total

Standing items

• intros for new folks on the call

• open votes

From previous meeting(s)

• (JL) Upcoming conda 22.11.0, conda-libmamba-solver releases
  • https://github.com/conda/conda/releases/tag/22.11.0
    • NEW! Download and extract packages in parallel
    • NEW! plugins (launching with solver, subcommands and virtual packages plugin hooks)
      • E.g. cuda virtual package: https://github.com/conda/conda/blob/main/conda/plugins/virtual_packages/cuda.py
    • Switched to ruamel.yaml (look ma, no underscore!)
  • https://github.com/conda-forge/conda-feedstock/pull/181

Active votes

Your new() agenda items

• (JRG) Support for abi3 Python packages with abi3audit checks?

  • https://blog.trailofbits.com/2022/11/15/python-wheels-abi-abi3audit/
  • [X] Sounds feasible with some work, Jaime to post issue on website repo for follow-ups

• (MRB) cleaning up bots and secrets

  • moving all bot tokens, passwords, etc. out of keybase to 1password
  • going to start removing unused bots
  • will give core team notice just in case before removing specific accounts

• (HV) openssl 3 timeline

  • open PRs/feedstocks listed in https://github.com/conda-forge/conda-forge-pinning-feedstock/issues/3838
  • can we identify blockers (if any) for dropping 1.1.1?
  • if dropping 1.1.1, how to handle problematic cases (i.e. ruby <3.0)
  • todo:
    • john to post note on issue that we will discuss again in january 11

• (HV) cross-compiling CUDA

  • new effort in staged-recipes is adding 11.8, but we would need 11.2 (quoth Isuru)
  • is there an alternative to https://github.com/conda-forge/conda-forge-ci-setup-feedstock/pull/210 ?
  • if not, can we finalize that PR?
  • would help a lot on CUDA+aarch jobs for feedstocks that can cross-compile
    • e.g. arrow now has 16 jobs x 2 abi branches that run into 6h timeout about 50% of the time (c.f. x-compilation: ~1h)
    • arrow-cpp-feedstock/main dropped CUDA+aarch, pending https://github.com/conda-forge/arrow-cpp-feedstock/pull/899)
    • Planning to move forward with conda-forge-ci-setup PR
    • Needs some permission fixes to Docker images
    • In the future, new CUDA packages + cuda-compat could solve this, but not right away

• (JK) staged-recipes

  • Might be more wonky than it was before, might not.
  • Trouble with Travis (the software)
  • todo
    • automate deletion of empty feedstocks
    • randomly sort them
    • only do 5 at a time

• (DPC) Reminder: conda-forge google group is being archived at the end of the year.

  • Shutdown message will point people at conda Discourse site. Also want to mention announce@conda.org mailing list. Any objections? Point people to announcements page in doc.
  • Who wants to handle the shutdown for conda-forge? Or can DPC be made a list owner?
    • Matt will do this.
  • https://conda-forge.org/docs/user/announcements.html

• (JRG) gpu stuff

  • starting to work
  • Matt: don't break main on testing feedstock but otherwise go to town

Pushed to next meeting

CFEPs

• cfep-12 Removing packages that violate the terms of the source package
  • Stalled since May 26, 2020
  • Active debate about moving to "broken" vs deleting from conda-forge channel
  • Active vote, ends on 2020-03-11
  • What were the results of the vote?
  • Did we hear back from NumFOCUS? they did the legal seminar which is recorded